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2024 Genesis G80 HDA2: ADRV traffic present but no ADAS ECU response at 0x730 #3623

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Describe the car bug

Vehicle and setup

  • 2024 Genesis G80 2.5T Sport Prestige, US market, HDA II
  • comma 4
  • sunnypilot staging, using upstream opendbc Hyundai interface/safety behavior
  • Exact platform match: GENESIS_G80_2ND_GEN_FL
  • Camera firmware: 99211-T1210 (fingerprint PR Hyundai: add Genesis G80 T1210 camera firmware #3604)
  • Radar firmware: 99110-T1120
  • Platform flags: 8197
    • CANFD_LKA_STEER_MSG
    • CANFD_ALT_GEARS
    • CANFD

Lateral control and stock Genesis SCC work normally. Current opendbc reports:

alphaLongitudinalAvailable=False
openpilotLongitudinalControl=False
pcmCruise=True
radarUnavailable=True

What is unusual

The car has the stock CAN messages expected from an HDA II ADAS-driving
topology:

Message Bus Approximate rate
0x50 LKA steering camera CAN 100 Hz
0x51 ADRV A-CAN 100 Hz
0x160 ADRV E-CAN 50 Hz
0x1A0 SCC_CONTROL E-CAN 50 Hz
0x1EA ADRV E-CAN 20 Hz
0x200 ADRV E-CAN 20 Hz
0x345 ADRV E-CAN 5 Hz

However, firmware-query requests sent to ADAS address 0x730 receive no
response at 0x738. Camera 0x7C4/0x7CC and radar 0x7D0/0x7D8 respond
normally.

I scanned every standard diagnostic frame in 0x700-0x7FF, the queried
29-bit diagnostic addresses, and all carFw entries. No unidentified positive
firmware response appears to represent the ADAS Driving ECU at another queried
address.

Comparison with the existing 2024 G80 Advanced route

Reference route from the original G80 support work:

66eaa6c3b6b2afc6/00000009--3a5199aabe/0

Sport Prestige route:

ffe7d2315938753c/00000293--5a61d55cfe/0

The reference Advanced route has the same flags (8197), same relevant
message locations/rates, and also no response at 0x738.

Its recorded CarParams says alphaLongitudinalAvailable=True; the current
Sport Prestige route says False. This appears to be a software-version
difference rather than a hardware-topology difference. Current
CarInterface._get_params() explicitly forces alpha longitudinal unavailable
for CANFD_LKA_STEER_MSG vehicles when Ecu.adas is absent:

if lka_steering and Ecu.adas not in ecu_list:
  # this needs to be figured out for cars without an ADAS ECU
  ret.alphaLongitudinalAvailable = False

I have not found evidence that openpilot longitudinal was actually validated
on the Advanced reference vehicle; the route only establishes that the older
software exposed the option.

Factory service information

The 2024 G80 factory service manual documents a distinct physical
ADAS Driving ECU (ADAS_DRV) behind the main crash pad. Its connector has
E-CAN and ADAS-CAN pairs. Replacement requires factory diagnostic-tool
variant coding.

The module's DTC catalog includes:

  • E-CAN bus-off
  • ACC/SCC communication error
  • HDA variant-coding mismatch
  • front-camera timeout
  • front-radar timeout
  • front-corner-radar timeout

This confirms the platform design includes this module, but the generic manual
does not prove that it is installed on every trim or reachable from the
camera-harness diagnostic path.

Previous radar test

A parked test addressed the responding SCC radar at 0x7D0. The radar
accepted diagnostic session 10 03, but stock SCC_CONTROL continued after
communication-control request 28 83 01, and Panda correctly raised
relayMalfunction. The vehicle recovered after an ignition cycle. I will not
repeat this or send additional disable commands without maintainer guidance.

Questions

  1. Was openpilot longitudinal ever validated on the 2024 G80 Advanced reference
    vehicle, or was only lateral/stock SCC validated?
  2. For this RG3 topology, is the missing 0x738 response evidence that
    ADAS_DRV is physically absent, or could factory gateway/diagnostic routing
    make it unreachable from the camera harness?
  3. Is there another known diagnostic endpoint/bus for ADAS_DRV on RG3, or
    should this platform remain explicitly gated from alpha longitudinal?
  4. What additional read-only route data would be useful before considering
    any further active vehicle test?

This differs from #3395: that Niro's 0x730 ECU responds and accepts the
disable command before gateway traffic disappears. This G80 never responds at
0x730, while its normal ADRV message set remains present.

Related fingerprint PR:

#3604

Vehicle investigation:

https://community.sunnypilot.ai/t/2024-genesis-g80-2-5t-sport-prestige-hda-ii-car-unrecognized/6420

Provide a route where the issue occurs

ffe7d2315938753c/00000293--5a61d55cfe/0

openpilot version

sunnypilot staging 2026.002.000, commit 3bd5475499cc9a66b018fa9be041334eaaa82e40

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