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Two agent-experience audit entries from walking the stall guards with real CLIs on 2026-10-31. Docs only.
87.codex exec ignores SIGTERM mid-request. A stalled codex turn is ended by the supervisor's process-group SIGKILL after the cancel grace, so a stall takes window + grace. Walked 3 of 3 on cli 0.1.211, codex-cli 0.162.1, with a provider that never answers.
88. The claude first-output watchdog (spawn_stalled) counts a turn as started once its transcript grows. claude -p writes its transcript before the model answers, so a hung provider is never named. Walked on cli 0.1.200: the turn ran to the run timeout and failed as claude timed out.
The agent experience audit adds two entries. One describes termination behavior for stalled Codex turns. The other describes the limits of Claude’s first-output watchdog during a provider hang.
The audit records that the Codex stall path does not send SIGTERM. After a 15-second cancel grace period, the supervisor sends SIGKILL to the process group. Reconnect progress can delay stall classification. It also records that Claude’s first-output watchdog can be satisfied before a provider response, so a provider hang reaches the run timeout.
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4238-4238: Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win
Describe the stall window as missing progress, not silence.
The supervisor starts the stall timer for each attempt and resets it on adapter trace events, child creation, or any reported stdout/stderr data. Codex reconnect output therefore counts as liveness and can extend classification, as the 111-second observation shows.
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-Every turn was named `stuck`, and every turn took the full window plus the cancel grace: 30 s of silence, then 15 s waiting for codex to exit after SIGTERM, then a process-group SIGKILL.+Every turn was named `stuck`. The supervisor classified a stall after 30 s without a recognized progress signal, then waited 15 s for codex to exit after SIGTERM before sending a process-group SIGKILL.
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-One more detail: once the provider went away mid-turn, codex's reconnect attempts wrote progress events, so that turn ran 111 s before it was named. A retrying CLI looks alive to a stdout-progress check.+One more detail: once the provider went away mid-turn, codex's reconnect attempts wrote progress events that reset the supervisor's liveness timer, so that turn ran 111 s before it was named. A retrying CLI looks alive to a stdout-progress check.
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Review comment at @docs/development/agent-experience-audit.md at line 4238:
Update the stall description in the audit documentation to say the supervisor
classifies a stall after 30 seconds without a recognized progress signal, then
waits 15 seconds after SIGTERM before sending SIGKILL. Clarify that Codex
reconnect progress events reset the liveness timer, accounting for the
111-second delay before classification.
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- Line 4238: Update the stall description in the audit documentation to say the
supervisor classifies a stall after 30 seconds without a recognized progress
signal, then waits 15 seconds after SIGTERM before sending SIGKILL. Clarify that
Codex reconnect progress events reset the liveness timer, accounting for the
111-second delay before classification.
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Limit this lesson to the observed supervised Codex path.
4244-4244: Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win
Limit this lesson to the observed supervised Codex path.
The supervised Claude policy sets its stall window to 0. Claude’s own timeout sends SIGTERM in runClaude. If watchFirstOutput reports spawn_stalled, its bound onStall callback sends SIGTERM and then SIGKILL. Therefore, “only the group SIGKILL ends a stalled turn” is too broad. Distinguish the observed Codex path from Claude’s timeout, watchdog, and supervisor paths.
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Review comment at @docs/development/agent-experience-audit.md at line 4244:
Revise the lesson to describe only the observed supervised Codex path, including
the stall duration as window plus grace. Qualify the SIGKILL conclusion for that
path, and distinguish it from Claude’s timeout in runClaude and the watchdog and
supervisor behavior associated with watchFirstOutput.
Do not describe the run timeout as the only bound.
4252-4252: Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win
Do not describe the run timeout as the only bound.
In supervised mode, the wall-clock budget is turnTimeoutMs + WALL_BACKSTOP_MS. If the adapter ignores the abort, the supervisor then waits CANCEL_GRACE_MS before killing the process tree. A provider hang can therefore last beyond COMMONLY_AGENT_RUN_TIMEOUT_MS, even if the observed run exited at the adapter timeout. State the backstop and grace behavior. (raw.githubusercontent.com)
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Update the repair note to clarify that supervised turns are bounded by
turnTimeoutMs plus WALL_BACKSTOP_MS, followed by CANCEL_GRACE_MS before the
process tree is killed if the adapter ignores the abort; do not describe
COMMONLY_AGENT_RUN_TIMEOUT_MS as the only bound.
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Entry 88 is accurate. A spawn counts as started on any stdout/stderr byte or on transcript growth (cli/src/lib/first-output-watchdog.js:123-131). The default is 180 s (:23). A missing transcript kills only with the console locked (:133-134). The supervised path keeps claude's stall off (STALL_DEFAULTS_MS, supervised-turn.js:54).
Entry 87 was corrected at this head. The first draft said codex "ignores SIGTERM". On the stall path no SIGTERM is sent: the supervisor aborts (supervisor.js:141-153), the adapter does not act on the abort (supervised-turn.js:55-61), and the group SIGKILL after CANCEL_GRACE_MS (15 s) ends the turn (process-group.js:155-172). The entry now says that, and keeps a note about the earlier wording.
Walk numbers are consistent: the 30 s window plus the 15 s grace gives the 45 s turn, and signal: "SIGKILL" matches a group kill.
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Two agent-experience audit entries from walking the stall guards with real CLIs on 2026-10-31. Docs only.
codex execignores SIGTERM mid-request. A stalled codex turn is ended by the supervisor's process-group SIGKILL after the cancel grace, so a stall takes window + grace. Walked 3 of 3 on cli 0.1.211, codex-cli 0.162.1, with a provider that never answers.spawn_stalled) counts a turn as started once its transcript grows.claude -pwrites its transcript before the model answers, so a hung provider is never named. Walked on cli 0.1.200: the turn ran to the run timeout and failed asclaude timed out.Neither entry changes code.
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